Amanda Knox talks to Chris Cuomo
I watched most of the Amanda Knox interview last night with Chris Cuomo, and one element of her interview was really striking to me. Amanda’s behavior changed dramatically as she answered different questions.
When Amanda spoke from the heart, her words flowed like water–very fluid. But other times, it was clear she was self-censoring every. single. thing. she. said. That change in behavior stood out like a beacon in the night.
Most people always chose a side when looking at person and trying to determine if they are truthful or deceptive. The reality is, however, that people who are deceptive often sprinkle their story with the truth, too. It sells better. Deception detection is never all black or all white. It’s almost always a mix, but people are usually on one side of the fence of the other. She’s either ALL honest, or ALL lying –which couldn’t be further from the truth!
I honestly think Amanda Knox would have been much better to stay quiet. What she reveals in her interviews doesn’t do her any favors whatsoever.
The most ridiculous comment Amanda made last night was when she stays in hotels she cries so hard that people in neighboring rooms report her. Have you ever heard such nonsense? Yes, she may be crying, but intentionally loud so people will say “I heard her cry”. It’s absurd.
Having seen Amanda Knox speak out now, I feel stronger than ever that she is not leveling with us about what she knows happened the night Meredith was murdered. She knows more than she’s telling, if you ask me without question.
I believe her. She explained the reason she pauses when answering questions. Though I don’t believe she is the most honest person on the entire planet (throwing humanness into the equation), I believe her claim to innocence is genuine.
Mostly I believe in her innocence because of the evidence.
Regardless of whether or not she is innocent of murder, the point is that she seems to not be a truthful person. We’re not talking little white lies. This is about someone who appears to not be totally honest when talking about incidents and facts relating to the death of another human being. She owes Meredith and the Kercher family the whole truth!
We need to know why she may not be telling the truth, what is it that she could possibly be hiding and why?
‘Seems’ being the decisive term. For things are not always as they *seem* to be. Put a stick halfway in a pond, and from your perspective, the stick suddenly appears crooked. Turns out it’s not, even though when submerged halfway it certainly *seems* to be.
A stick submerged halfway under water; it’s a nice metaphor for the actions of others and how we perceive them and attribute motives underlying those actions. Thing is, when evaluating behavior, we’re relying on our interpretations of that behavior. And our point of view, determined by our life experiences, shapes what we perceive underneath the surface.
And that’s where it gets kind of murky. Because as much as my alarm bells go off when I notice Amanda Knox going from very natural and forthcoming when talking about things she’s comfortable with, to treading very carefully when talking about her actions at the scene of the crime, there just might be some underlying experiences behind that behavior which could go a long way in explaining this apparent discrepancy.
For instance…
1. the experience of being grilled over and over again by the police on minutiae of her going to and fro the cottage at the time of Meredith Kerchers death; interrogators egging her on to fill in the blanks in her memory and to add more and more detail to her account of what (might have) happened, only to turn that around on her and ensnare her in seemingly inoccuous discrepancies about details, criminal knowledge and/or actions that seem out of order or implausible to an outsider, talking from the benefit of hindsight.
2. the experience of emotional coercion, manipulation and right out verbal battery involved in this interrogative process – It’s quite common for investigators to verbally batter a suspect into submission and false admissions, aided by such methods as sleep deprivation, 10 hour interrogations, shouting, intimidating, playing nice and then switching to bully mode, or playing on somebody’s guilt, willingness to help, and so on and so forth – Knox tells as much that’s how she was treated by the interrogators.
3. The experience of two trials, having every word that seems to imply contradiction meted out and twisted into the most damning interpretation possible by the prosecutor, plus being tried by media who took al sorts of quotes and innocuous actions out of context, magnifying them, playing them over and over and over again in order to paint the picture of a decadent, thrill-seeking, callous and promiscuous foreigner.
I could see someone coming from those experiences becoming exceedingly careful and particular with what he or she says about what exactly did and didn’t occur at the time of entering the scene of the crime, what she remembers, and what not.
Of course, for someone not coming from those experiences and trying to get a feel for whether or not a person is telling the truth, the notable shifts in Knox’ loquaciousness and facial expressions do register as quaint and unnatural, which then raises the question: what is off here? Why is she suddenly so hesitant and cautious? What is she not telling i.e. hiding i.e. misdirecting from?
However, that just goes to show the problematic nature of trying to sift the lies from the truth by reading someone’s behavior, speech and expressions. Reading people is not an exact science like mathematics or formal logic (in which B follows necessarily from A; and even mathematicians make mistakes by overlooking things or making a mistake in applying the equation). In fact, it’s not a science at all: it’s more like close-reading a book.
It’s all about interpretation. And interpretations can and occasionally will be off the mark. That’s why a good psychologist / therapist will always, always, always put their interpretation to the client, in the form of an open question: ‘I noticed that in our conversation you did so-and-so; what do you think that means? Could it mean this, or that, or… Which one rings a bell for you?’
Unfortunately, as television audience we don’t have that luxury. Neither does a police investigator. That’s why the physical evidence is so important in establishing the truth of what happened.
And the forensic evidence clearly exonerates Amanda Knox’, telling us that she wasn’t even in the room at the time when Meredith Kerchner was killed, but that a certain acquiantance of the neighbours below, a man named Rudy Guede, was. His bloodstained hand print was was found on a pillow, his DNA was all over and inside Kerchner, and it was his shoe print on the bath mat. Furthermore, Guede has a history of erratic, somewhat anti-social behavior: dropping out of college, losing his job, breaking into people’s home armed with a knife.
Had this guy been in the picture from the get go, we wouldn’t be scrutinizing Amanda Knox right now, because there’s simply no evidence, physical or otherwise, connecting her to the crime. There’s no apparent motive either. Basically, there’s no reason to suspect her other than that she was the first person on site and she showered before noticing something was wrong.
Now, if from the evidence it follows that there’s no reason to believe that Knox had anything to do with Kerchner’s death and that there is every reason to believe that Guede acted alone; it also follows that whatever shifts and discrepancies in Knox’ tone, expressions and loquaciousness should then be explained by something other than their untruthful nature.
Something like Knox’ experiences with police interrogations and having every word about her actions at the scene of the crime picked apart and being used against her, for instance.
I agree with this except for combining open ended questions along with a few different meanings laid out for someone to choose from. That wouldnt be an open ended question any longer IMO.
But I totally agree with you. Even Guede’s DNA was found inside of her genitals. There was blood everywhere, foot prints everywhere, and other DNA. It was all Guede’s. It would be impossible for Knox and her then boyfriend to clean up their own DNA which wouldve been mixed in and transferred with the victim’s and Guede’s. it would’ve been impossible!
Im not projecting my own personal experience on the crime scene at all.
That’s just logic and backed by scientific forensic analysis.
They tried to clean up their bare footprints in Meredith’s blood, but they were revealed by luminol. There’s much more. You haven’t been told the truth.
Oh I see what you’re saying.
I have to disagree with you about the evidence. There’s plenty. We’ll see what happens with the new appeals.
bucketoftea,
I haven’t given you grief in a while. Hello.
What is it about your perception of the people who were exposed to more of the case evidence than you will ever be … you know, the ones who let Amanda out of prison … out of the country, that instead has you quoting things like “evidence … There’s plenty”.
Yes, let’s see what happens with the new appeals.
I haven’t a clue who you are,but my opinion is that the appeal that released them was bogus. Crooked. That will probably all come out in due course. You do realise that the Supreme Court threw out the entire appeal findings except AK’s conviction for calunia against Patrick?
bucketoftea,
I understand a little bit better now.
You believe that the appeal that released them was bogus, crooked.
And that the verdict before the appeal trial, had it right.
And now you expect the Supreme Court’s ruling to lead back to the original finding of guilty.
It will be interesting to see what happens. This will be drawn out for a long time, I don’t think the trial will even begin until next year. Certainly, it’s another couple months just to find out the rationale for the ruling.
Did you believe Amanda Knox when she claimed Diya Lumumba killed Meredith?
Did you believe her when she repeatedly claimed that she was at the cottage when Meredith was killed?
No.
And what cottage?
Where the girls lived.
She said that was not her memory until after she was interrogated for so long without food, water, and being hit by the police over and over again.
Her account of such an interrogation is exactly like the ones where similar “confessions” were made because they “just wanted it to stop”.
I don’t believe that’s how it happened, and all those present (besides Knox) testified to the contrary. No slaps, no name-calling, no one prevented her using the toilet. She had tea and cakes. She’d eaten out with Sollecito just before going to the police station, so she was hardly starving a couple of hours later anyway.
I think most people don’t notice the inconsistencies and believe what she is saying. Or they think she’s awkward/naive/PTSD, etc, and that’s why she’s behaving this way. I doubt most people will change their minds about her — if they thought she was innocent before, they won’t believe anything bad of her now.
The US news media only seemed to report her PR approved script, and quite a few talking heads who should know better jumped on board as well, so those still thinking she’s innocent can be forgiven because they’ve been told what to think via ABC, CBS, CNN ever since Meredith Kercher was murdered.
I was just curious if anyone here knows anything about the publishing industry. I find it very strange that this kinda chubby kinda cute kinda naive kinda quirky girl from the Pacific Northwest (And there are a lot of women in cities like Seattle, Portland, Eugene just like her) has suddenly transformed into this thin perfectly coiffed beautiful woman who talks like she has almost but not quite mastered the art of the public relations interview.
It seems to me that there is a good possibility that in order to protect their investment, her publishers have trained and pre grilled her in preparation for media interviews. Even though she isn’t great at it yet, the whole vibe I got off her, and this is in agreement with Eyes’s observation about the flowing truth and the jerky self censoring, is that she seems like someone who has been told exactly how she is to present herself to the media.
I think her response to the part where Cuomo asks her about her inappropriate affect after Kerchner’s death was a bit of spin a politician would be proud of:
She was lost. Her boyfriend kissed her (she didn’t kiss him.) Other people are unreasonably holding her to stereotypes and assuming guilt. She was very young and sheltered.The murder scared her and was worried about herself. (Here she admits it was a selfish reaction, so after attacking everyone else, she admits a small sliver of personal fault, which is a brilliant subtlety. Awww, she admits she isn’t perfect.)
Could she have suddenly figured out this kind of media savvyness own, or has she been taking lessons at the behest of her publishers? I am wondering.
Her father engaged a PR firm before he hired her a lawyer, so I think you’re probably right! I don’t think it worked very well, do you? Just lipstick on the pig.
I agree with your observations. I can usually detect without any training like you have…but, rather relying solely on my instinct…..I just listen to what my center is saying. I wish I had your expertise tho!!
I have wanted time and time again to believe Amanda…..but there was always something wrong….I always had a bad feeling about her story. I too have always felt there was more to this story than she is admitting.
Right on, “Eyes”.
I think Amanda knows a lot more about the murder. Her answers don’t flow freely and she calculates many of them. She cries more for her being accused than she does for her roommate being murdered. Most people experiencing and event like this would be hysterical or crying uncontrollably and rush to call home ASAP or her roommate’s parents. I have never heard her explain the events of that night from beginning to end. I think she is hiding something.
That’s just it. You said “Most people would”. Most doesnt include all. People dont have a clue how they would act if they were in the same circumstance. There is no possible way that you can empathize. There are people who just dont express their emotions in public. It’s not a reach there.
You haven’t heard her explain because it was years ago. Research. The events were spoken about during trial.
I could share stories with you of things Ive been through that would make your head spin. I do share with people when I feel safe. I can rattle off a mile a minute and show no emotion but that doesnt mean it didnt affect me. That doesnt mean that I don’t feel it later after I can bring myself back to the present. I don’t cry in front of people at all n that doesnt mean Im hiding something.
And Bucketoftea, that prosecutor in Italy is known for pulling stuff out of thin air, making things up just to get a conviction. People have written books about him. Amanda Knoxs conviction got over turned because she didnt commit a crime. Are you saying that the 12 judges in the high court, who considered her appeal are all dumb???
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What struck me as odd & I immediately went from believing her innocence to suddenly knowing she did kill was When The Interviewer Point Blank Asked If She Murdered her roommate, Amanda Knox then said Absolutely Not while shaking her head up and down in a yes gesture. It's impossible to do unless you're guilty
I have reviewed all the evidence of the killing of my fellow English person. I have come to the conclusion that Rudy Guede DID NOT KILL ALONE. There were 2 different knives used. Also she had 47 wounds all over her body with minimal defence wounds on hands and arms. Also bruises on arms and body indicating she was held by one person standing up. While the other stabbed and slashed away. And maybe