Bill Cosby’s Leaks
Everyone knows Bill Cosby doesn’t want to speak or address the accusations made by 16 women. And why would he? Being silent has worked for him for decades. Furthermore, we all know the more one speaks if he is guilty, the faster he will hang the noose around his neck. But even without Bill Cosby speaking very much, in the little he has spoken, he has shown very supportive behavioral evidence that he is quite capable of the accusations made. Mind you, I have already seen two women speak out and believe them, and we can’t have both sides being honest, but I want to share what Bill Cosby is revealing and what it means.
Bill Cosby did an interview on November 6, 2014, with an Associated Press reporter (see above). They released this video amidst allegations. In this video, we see Cosby ask the reporter not to air his reply that he doesn’t want to speak about the accusations. That in and of itself says little. However, it is HOW he broached the topic with the reporter that is very revealing and quite telling of the type of person the real Bill Cosby is. Listen to what Bill Cosby says.
He says, “I know I didn’t say anything, but I’m asking your integrity that since I didn’t want to say anything, but I did answer you in terms of ‘I don’t want to say anything, of what value will it have?'”
The use of the word integrity here is stunning.
Bill Cosby, whose integrity is being questioned, is telling this reporter that essentially if he airs this video, he has no integrity. That’s jaw dropping how he turns the tables.
The reporter never promised him anything and Cosby’s admits it, yet Cosby is twisting the facts and being extremely manipulative. This action by Cosby says a ton about his personality and it is anything but “Huxtable” in quality. Instead, he is skillfully trying to put his lack of credibility or integrity in question on this reporter! This is jaw dropping and not the behavior of an ethical, honest or decent man.
If I witnessed this in person, my trust would be revoked for him immediately by these actions alone.
Cosby goes even further with this young reporter and says, “I think if you want to consider yourself to be serious that it will not appear anywhere.”
This is a threat in no simple terms.
Cosby is basically saying if you want to be a serious professional here, you better not do this. He is implicating without saying it directly that he will make sure the guy is not taken as a serious reporter if he leaks it! Why else would he say this?
The reporter did absolutely nothing wrong, and yet Cosby has leveled two serious attacks on him trying to implicate him as unethical and unprofessional if he doesn’t do what Cosby wants! When the entire time it is Cosby who is being questioned for being unethical and unprofessional. Cosby tries to the turn the tables with incredible ease!! It’s flat out chilling. He is a man who is used to wielding extreme manipulation and control on people. I can assure you honest people with integrity would never speak like this to someone. It is highly supportive that Cosby is everything he is being accused of and maybe more.
And that’s not all Cosby has revealed.
He told a reporter on Friday in Florida, “I know people are tired of me not saying anything, but a guy doesn’t have to answer to innuendos.”
This statement is hotter than a potato coming out of a brick oven!
If you are accused of being a serial rapist who drugged women, would you refer to this as “innuendos”? I would bet my last dollar you would not. You would flatly DENY the allegations, but Cosby has yet to deny anything. Ever.
You should take notice.
And instead of a flat out rejecting of the accusations, he softens them to the point of absurdity with the word “innuendos”.
Add to that he doesn’t even put himself in the equation. He says “a guy”. He does not talk in first person. It’s highly notable.
People who do harm to others in society often have a horrible time saying the things they’ve done, because its too close for them to utter the words. They are too hard to say if they are, in fact, guilty. Murderers will often say the person “died” or “disappeared” but cannot say murder or killed. And here we have Cosby who can’t say “rape”, or even put himself in the same sentence.
So Cosby gives us really strong behavioral evidence that is supportive he is not honest. We can clearly see that he is extremely manipulative and controlling, and lacks integrity to turn the tables so fast on an innocent reporter. Now add that, you have 16 women coming forward who show no evidence that is contradictory to their stories, and tell me who you believe…
Think of all the innocent people you have seen in your life who were accused of a serious crime and who refused to speak. How many can you think of? I ask you, my readers, to try to think of people who refused to speak when accused of one or more serious crimes who turned up to be innocent. Can you think of anyone? I can’t think of one, but I am willing to try to find an example.
People will tell you who they are, if you just listen.
“Your actions speak so loudly, I can not hear what you are saying.”
–Ralph Waldo Emerson
AGREED! …oh, and I figure him saying “I ask your integrity” was him not being able to formulate AND lay it out there in a silky fashion quite fast enough. He didn’t have time to smooth it down to something like, “Since you are obviously a man of integrity, I am asking you not to show this. If you promise not to show this, I will take you at your word. :::wink wink nod nod:::” lol, his real intention leaked out of his mouth. I have to wonder how much of his manipulations are instinct (which seems to be in heavy dose with him) and how much of it is on the fly cerebral design. Is it conjured or is it his nature showing. It comes across like a combination of nature and intellect if you ask me. Chicken or the egg, though. I am curious about that…… Maybe they are just part of the perfect storm that makes a person desirous of taking advantage of another person. … that secret confidence that feeds the ego of a manipulator, “…you are smarter than she is; you could have your way with her and have her to keep her mouth shut with with zero effort.”
Your thoughts are identical to the ones I had watching this interview. He reminded me of an individual in my life who is manipulative and flipped a situation on me in the bat of an eye. This individual was in the wrong (every person who learned of what he did mentioned something about his character). For both this individual I know and for Cosby here in the interview, you can sense a real “push”. You feel pushed and required to bow to their demands, you also feel “begged”, that’s the part that “works” for them. They push and you kinda feel begged, but you are really being bullied. That interviewer does a decent job of not falling back, but really, Cosby pushes him.
clownfish, yeah, I was furious when I saw what Cosby did to the interviewer. I would have gone immediately aggressive and confronted him if he had come at me like that. There is one thing that will immediately enrage me and that is to have someone attempt to manipulate me in an attempt to deflect their own wrong doing. I find that particular tactic loathsome. I knew a sociopath once that engaged in that behavior on a regular basis and with such ease that it was hard to understand at first. It took me about a week to figure out the mechanics of what he was doing. I felt it emotionally, like you said, before my brain could piece it all together. Once I did, I confronted. …oh, and because he was a sociopath, his response was bizarre. You would expect a normal person to display shame for what they had done. Obviously, that wasn’t what I got. I got a sly smile, a giddy under the breath giggle, and an aw-shucks you have figured it out/my fun is now over response. I don’t have to tell you how angry I was to observe that, do I? lol I expect Bill to have an equally non-normal response to getting caught in his long standing manipulations racket. It is repulsive to watch Bill attack someone’s sense of self in attempt to throw them off balance for his gain. Repulsive.
In a situation like that it’s hard to react in real time. If your reaction to being pushed is to freeze up, then they win. If you get aggressive, they might still win at that too. I think you have to outsmart them. I never could outsmart anyone in real time.
I think the interviewer was calm because he knew they were recording it.
But I am very proud of him for airing it!
Kinda showed him. He deflected by saying he had to talk to his producer but I bet as soon as Bill left he was all lets play this for the world to see.
But, just like with Michael Jackson, people will still support him because he is famous but the world knows.
That video said it all.
And man the wife sitting there with her fake forced smile was driving me nuts!
She clearly has also choosen to stand by this predator.
You said the thoughts I was having, but much more elegantly and thoroughly. The manipulation of the reporter really irked me, because I was a newspaper reporter many years ago and can identify with the helpless anger that reporter probably experienced but couldn’t respond with because it’s an unequal relationship, VIP source and journalist. Cosby knew just what he was doing, albeit clumsily. I’ve experienced manipulative people in my life, predators who flip the script to make it look like they are the victims.
Your last two posts, on Bill Cosby and his accusers, are among your best posts ever, and really show your skills and insights. I would appreciate hearing your take on Camille Cosby’s behavior in the interview with the reporter. Does she believe Bill is innocent or guilty, judging by her body language? Thanks.
Amazingly, a little bit later, he even questions AP’s integrity – implying that he didn’t inform them of his desire not to be asked this line of questioning because he thought AP had more integrity than that. .
Could you give us your read on Camille Cosby? Her smile, otherwise radiant, freezes up when the question is asked and she skews her body slightly away from Bill. I think I saw pain and maybe some fear in that smile.
The poor woman must be in a world of hurt right now. They’ve been married for 50 years, and these accusations date back almost to the beginning of their marriage.
I saw interesting body language in Camille as well, but there’s something to her that makes me think she knows more than she is letting on.
Actually I remember thinking he is talking about AP, as if AP is a person. He sounded so weird with everything he said. You don’t ask someone’s integrity something. That is not even English. AP is not a person with integrity. Etc etc.
Another excellent post – I ALWAYS learn something coming here 🙂 This time, here’s what I’m wondering about…
Just checking if I have this correct – the falsely accused will tell their story straight and will tell almost anyone who will listen, while the correctly accused (guilty) won’t talk or at the very least will be evasive and may even stay silent even in front of national TV cameras. Something else we learned in this case is that many survivors will not talk for decades – or ever – even though talking and exposing the damage would do a world of good for many people. Maybe not that extreme, but is that the general pattern?
Cobsy’s actions speak so loudly, it’s amazing. The blog post once again says it very eloquently, and makes the issues very clear. Thanks again for all your work on this topic.
But some will attempt to deny it and go as far as to threaten you or push the limits and call your bluff.
Bill I think was trying to call his bluff by speaking about integrity. But he knew the camera was running and I think was trying to carefully choose his words. Had the cameras been off, I bet we would have seen serious anger and threats.
And here is something intersting. I follow a blog about Statement Analysis and how people will try to avoid a direct lie…..
The following are allprofessional athletes who when they tested positive, try to state they did not do steriods. Or they would like us to beleive they stated it… but did they???? See some of the statements below.
Talk about thinking you are above it all or really calling peoples bluff while not simply stating “I did not do drugs”. My favorite is Roger Clemens. He tells the deaer to come forward…. AND HE DID…..
Roger Clemens:
“It never happened. Never happened. If I have these needles and these steroids and all these drugs, where did I get them? Where’s the person that gave them to me? Please come forward.”
Mark McGwire:
“My lawyers have advised me that I cannot answer these questions without jeopardizing my friends, my family, or myself,”
Lance Armstrong:
“We’re sick and tired of these allegations and we’re going to do everything we can to fight them. They’re absolutely untrue.”
“Why would I enter into a sport and then dope myself up and risk my life again? That’s crazy. I would never do that. No way.”
Barry Bonds:
“They can test me every day if they choose to.”
Jose Canseco
“I don’t know if it’s a conspiracy with Major League Baseball, but it’s just crazy and ridiculous
Ryan Braun:
“If I had done this intentionally, or unintentionally, I’d be the first one to step up and say ‘I did it.’ By no means am I perfect, but if I have ever made any mistakes in my life, I have taken responsibility for my actions…I truly believe in my heart, and would bet my life that this substance never entered my body at any point.”
lol
I saw many of the same things you identified here so well. He is so arrogant and so used to getting away with things; because of his status, power and money. Now a former NBC employee is corroborating what some of the accusers are saying, and how will Cosby’s attorney spin his story? What does this 90 year old man who worked for NBC during the era of the Cosby show have to gain by coming forward? “He is looking for his 15 minutes of fame.” Ha ha. Give me a break. Like others have said in other posts, this is Lance Armstrong all over. Smear anyone who talks against you. http://www.businessinsider.com/nbc-employee-substantiates-bill-cosby-allegations-2014-11
I think an innocent person would react the same way he did. He knew that even if he said anything, whether it was “I didn’t do it” or “No comment,” it would make him look bad. He supposedly had some understanding with the AP not to inquire about this topic, and they inquired anyway so he got angry. None of the stuff you listed, including his being “manipulative” of the reporter, is relevant to whether he committed rape.
Well, right, as proof of whether he committed rape, it is neither direct evidence, nor circumstantial evidence. But Eyes is not talking about proving his guilt with evidence. She deals in detecting and describing the hallmarks of deceptive behavior. In other words, her expertise is in determining whether a speaker is LYING in the current moment, not whether he committed a crime. The relevant item we are discussing is his credibility as evidenced by his words, gestures, expressions, behaviors. Also, if he didn’t do it, he would have readily denied it.
You’re wrong; saying “I didn’t do it” doesn’t make you look bad. Wrongfully accused people say “I didn’t do it” all the time. It certainty doesn’t look as bad as refusing to deny it!
Talking about it at all makes him look bad. Hence, why he didn’t want to talk about it. At the time when this interview occurred, this situation had not even become a scandal, so it was better to keep it out of the news.
Even assuming he was “manipulating” the reporter (which I don’t believe), that does not mean he is a deceptive person. And you say that he is “lying” in the current moment. What did he say that was false?
If he is telling the truth that AP said they would not inquire about this issue (something that the reporter never denies), then I agree with him that the reporter was sleazy for asking about it. In fact, even if there was no agreement but if the AP simply told him they wanted to talk about one issue and instead ambushed him with a different topic, I still say that’s sleazy journalism even if they made him no promise. Cosby was exactly right — rapist or not.
Sounds like you are on Cosby’s side and your mind is all made up. Is there ANYTHING he could have said or done in that interview that would change your view? I guess you can’t tell when someone is lying. Maybe you would like an open confession on tape and that would do it 🙂
You’re an idiot. There was no lying in the video.
respect please, calling someone an idiot rarely ok
Yes, I don’t tolerate that. Comment deleted and person blacklisted.
Classy move Mam!
95% of communication is non-verbal. It’s not about the words spoken separate from the non-verbal communication. It’s about the words spoken combined with both the non-verbal communication, as well as the words not spoken. When you add all 3 of these channels up, you get deception.
And clownfish is correct. Rudeness and disrespect are not appropriate in this forum. Calling someone an idiot falls in that vein, so please refrain from that in the future. It’s not productive communication, it only serves people’s egos.
They have been removed. This is unacceptable and doesn’t promote intellectual conversations. Feel free to remove them if you see this in the future. Thanks!
Eyes doesn’t talk about guilt or innocence. She says when she sees scientific evidence of deceit.
Oh man, he definitely turned that on the reporter. Threatening him like that made him seem so desperate, and why would he be so desperate to hide his responses if he was innocent?
Another thing I found interesting was when at 1:10 he said “…and I’ll tell you why” (that he doesn’t want to talk about it). His answer is “we don’t – I don’t talk about it” (after mentioning integrity and trying to threaten/manipulate the reporter mind you). His tone of voice is completely different. quieter, softer, like he’s talking about something bad that he’s recalling/thinking about in his head. And the end of the sentence is the quietest, when he’s saying “about it”. But, with that said, I’d love to hear the take on Camille Cosby. Did Bill just accidentally let it slip that she knows and they both don’t talk about it when he said “we don’t”
Yes, ‘that’ turns into ‘it’
I think the reporter did a great job.
Cosby’s circular answer: ‘There is no comment .. and I’ll tell you why… I don’t talk about it’.
That’s not really telling us why.
And then he brings it up again:
‘I know I didn’t say anything…but I did answer you.. in terms of I don’t want to say anything.’
That’s not really an answer.
Interesting to me that he eventually said I, I don’t talk about it. His wife was tight lipped. Was that her wedding ring she was stroking.
He said he didn’t want to compromise the reporters integrity, but then he went on to try and do so.
A good use of Game theory Keith.
The same logic applies to him trying to ‘scuttle’ the ending video segment of the interview. If it’s scuttled he wins. But even if it’s not scuttled, some viewers will still accept he’s innocent. So his best option, if he is guilty, would be to try to scuttle the segment. Which he did (try to do).
Game theory, huh? I actually don’t know what game theory is. I know the term, but I’ve never studied it so I have no familiarity with how it works or what it does.
To me, as an intellectual exercise, this was just taking the basic variables of the scenario and creating an equation we can plug them into and alter them one at a time to see what the outcome of each possibility would be.
I wasn’t sure what the actual outcome would be. Logically, it would make sense that it’s a balanced equation by the time you run through each iteration, but my intuition suggested that something actually tilts that balance and I wasn’t sure what or how, so I wanted to find out what that was. By laying it all out and running through it, I figured out what it was and confirmed what my intuition had been telling me– except now I can assign an actual, tangible value based on actual scientific research to it instead of just having some vague concept in my head that I use but don’t understand and can’t articulate. If that’s what game theory is, then it seems like a useful tool for various kinds of analysis.
Fascinating! I’ll have to read up on it at some point.
What do you mean by gains an unearned reputation? Why not retains his reputation like the other ones? I love the idea of Game Theory, it’s cool you used it here. Are you saying he gains a reputation of being truthful?
Sorry I didn’t see your comment earlier!
What I mean by “gains an unearned reputation” is that as a result of that combination of elements, he winds up with a positive reputation of being innocent which was not earned because he was actually guilty.
What I mean by “keeps his earned reputation” is that as a result of that combination of elements, he winds up with a reputation which was earned, either by his actual guilt or by his actual innocence.
What I mean by “loses his earned reputation” is that as a result of that combination of elements, he loses a good reputation which was earned by actually being innocent.
I stated them as “gains” and “loses” to reflect the social cost or benefit being either positive or negative for a given combination of variables and outcomes, so it would be a bit easier to understand the actual social ramifications of each set.
I actually didn’t know what game theory was (still don’t– I need to go read up on it), I only knew the term existed. Interesting that it’s what I was apparently using! For me, I was just using what seemed like a logical tool to analyze the possible combinations of variables and their outcomes. If only I’d been a bit earlier, then I could have named it and put it out into the world (except it’s probably been around since before I was born or something)! Oh well. LOL
He doesn’t like what he’s hearing.
If you are predisposed to condemn someone you will find
justification for doing so.
I am hoping that Mr. Cosby is not the monster you are so willing
to believe.
Let’s turn the tables for a minute and paint another
perspective: If you had had multiple illicit rendezvous as a married man, would
you want to broach the subject publicly? If it were already a painful issue
with you and your wife would you not want to make it clear to all that they
should not bring it up? If your wife were sitting right next you, would you not
expect the courtesy of it not being thrown up in her face and yours? I think
the reporter had no intention of being considerate. The media has the luxury of
painting things in it’s own terms as does the above writer.
Mr. Cosby and his wife remained gracious. The reporter deserved
a punch in the nose, in my opinion.
ALL IMPRESSIONS ARE SUBJECTIVE AND DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT
REALITY.
It is way too easy to point at ugliness when
the faults, we have the most responsibility for, lies within us.
EVEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE FAULT IN MR. COSBY, YOU REALLY
DO NOT APPROACH ANY CONSTRUCTIVE WAY OF FIXING IT. So your purpose is stupid.
My advice to the author: Recommend a mirror to your readers.
That’s a problem they can work on with good success if they would see the
challenge.