Reporter Asks Kaine: Were there red flags?

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Kyron Horman’s parents share details about their son, the search and Terri Moulton Horman

A reporter asks Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, missing boy and biological parents to Kyron, if there were red flags with Terri Horman, Kaine’s second wife, and they both respond yes.

Desiree Young tells us that when she talked to Terri the day Kyron went missing, things didn’t seem right to her. She had a motherly intuition that something was wrong.

Kaine said, “In the natural course of actions, she (Terri) was separating herself. I don’t think it was purposefully, but it was just apparent…”

Desiree says, “This is the stuff you write in novels. This is not our life. It’s just a little boy. I just don’t understand it.”

I think Desiree is distancing herself from Kyron because she refers to Kyron as, “It’s just a little boy.” It doesn’t flag me in any way with deception. It just clues me in how she is coping with this nightmare.

The reporter asks Desiree what is was like when Terri was hugging both of them in the first presser, when she had these suspicions, and Desiree replies, “Extremely frustrating, um, its hard for me because I am not really a fake person. What you see is…I wear my emotions and I don’t have a face I put on for other people… It’s extremely difficult to stand next to somebody you know is lying about your son and where he is.”

I personally do not believe that Kaine was suspicious of Terri during the first press conference (which I wasn’t sure of at that time). I think it took him more time to come around, but that would absolutely be expected. He was much more emotionally invested in “his family unit”.

Several people have commented that Kaine is not very emotional. It doesn’t strike me as unusual for “him”. I do think he has been through the war with all that is going on, and he has found his rock in Desiree, his ex-wife, who is there for him and supporting him. I suspect both Desiree and Tony Young have been kind to Kaine, which is amazing. Many ex-wives would resent their ex-husband for putting them in this position, but Desiree seems to have a compassionate and kind heart. Kaine is lucky for that. He has a compassionate shoulder to lean on.

Tidbits of My Life

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Strawberries

This past weekend, I went to a 50th birthday party of a friend of ours. I was helping his wife in the kitchen prepared an early dinner. I asked her what I could do, and she told me I could slice strawberries for the lovely salad she had prepared.

I took the strawberries over to the cutting board after washing them, and pulled the first one out. I put it on the glass cutting board before me, and I sliced it. I wasn’t feeling confident, because I am not one to put strawberries in my salad, so I wanted to make sure I was doing it “right”.

I glanced over to my friend after I finished and I said, “Is this what you want?”

She replied, “Yes” with a slight hesitation. I knew instantly something was wrong. She really meant no.

I looked down at my strawberry realizing I did something wrong, but I was clueless as to what. Then it hit me, I sliced the strawberry into circles, instead of hearts! How dorky I was.

Realizing what she had wanted, I said, “Oh, I see how you want! You want me to slice it the other direction so we have hearts.”

She knows of my ability and quickly retorted with a smile, “You are good.”

Just a silly moment from my life. I write this simply because many people tell me they find hearing about my personal life interesting. Did this interest you?

Long Pause Equal Deception?

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teenage boy (16-17) vodka into a glass

A reader of Eyes for Lies emailed me an interesting question that I felt might help other people. The reader agreed I could publish this.

Here is what the person wrote:

If one asks another a yes no question and they wait for several minutes before answering with a question, do you think the the respondent is likely to be telling the truth?

I asked, “Over the past couple of days have you been able to maintain your sobriety?”

Several minutes passed ….

He asked, “What have I done to make you think I have been drinking?”

I said, “Its a yes or no question…”

He responded, “No, I have not been drinking.”

His behavior indicated to me that he had snuck a couple of drinks. He was drowsy early, and he was trying not to speak, because I think he knew his speech was slightly affected.

The pause that this reader asks about could support honesty or deception. Here is why: If the person was being good and stayed clean, they may think “Why the hell is he questioning me?!” That would explain the pause and then the question that followed.

Or if he was guilty, he may have thought, “Oh no, I’m busted” and then wondered what clues he gave away…hence the same question.

However, the most important clues in the interaction that were given to us are the other signs mention that suspect was drowsy early and was not trying to speak. Those are the things you need to address and ask him about to get to the truth in this matter.

Thanks to the reader for letting me share this story with you.

Is Jake Pavelka Gay?

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8 June 2010 - Beverly Hills, California - Jake Pavelka. Jake Pavelka Hollyscoop Interview Taping held at Anto Distinctive Shirtmaker Store. Photo Credit: Byron Purvis/AdMedia
Jake Pavelka Hollyscoop Interview Taping held at Anto Distinctive
Shirtmaker Store. Photo Credit: Byron Purvis/AdMedia

Not according to his ex-girlfriend, Christina Haney, who he lived with Jake for three years and has known him for five. Haney spoke out to Us Magazine and stood by her ex. She also refrained from attacking Vienna.

Haney said to Us Magazine:

As for Pavelka admitting that he withheld sex during his relationship with Girardi, Haney tells Us, “We never had intimacy issues — ever. He really is a great guy who has just had some bad luck lately in choosing women.”

I told you Jake isn’t gay. Just because he was absolutely turned off by Vienna’s behavior, which we all got to witness on The Bachelor, it doesn’t mean he is gay. I think she gives us strong supporting evidence.

I see no indications whatsoever that Jake is gay.

This is a follow-up to the story I wrote in the Chicago Sun-Times on Wednesday.

More Details on Sting Operation with Terri Horman

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Here are some details about the sting operation where police attempted to get Terri Horman to talk about her involvement in the murder-for-hire plot to kill Kaine Horman. Terri Horman allegedly approached a landscaper to kill her husband. Now her husband Kaine has been led to believe she is also involved in the disappearance of their son Kaine.

Do you believe body language alone can reveal a lie? Read my thoughts here.