Joran van der Sloot: Honest or not?

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Case Overview: Natalie Holloway “…disappeared on May 30, 2005 during a graduation trip in Aruba. Holloway remains officially missing to this day, although according to Aruban authorities, she is most likely dead.[1] The disappearance generated a media sensation in both the U.S. and Aruba and sparked considerable interest in the Netherlands.” (Source: Wikipedia) One person of interest in the case is Joran Van der Sloot as he was the last person to see Natalee alive.

Video of Interview:
Part 1, Part 2

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I watched the interview with Chris Cuomo, and Joran Van der Sloot last night. I taped it, and went back this morning to write down the conversations in the areas that concerned me. I will share them with you.

The first thing I noticed was that Joran was very neutral. He was your classic neutral person in this interview. He didn’t show emotions, he didn’t get excited, he didn’t get angry–he just spoke monotone without emotions. Joran was a blank slate 99.9% of the time. However, when you look at other videos of Joran, he is not a blank slate. He expresses emotion. His face is expressive.

This raises a red flag for me immediately. Joran should be full of emotions. Anyone would be full of emotions being wrongly accused. However, if you are accused of something you did– you would have every reason to hide those emotions, wouldn’t you?

In looking at the Joran case, I will tell you that Joran is a difficult read. When someone doesn’t offer up emotions like Joran, and conceals them quite well, we are only left with one thing: the facts. Is what Joran saying logical? Does it fit? Is he answering questions like an honest man?

Joran did offer a few odd smirkish smiles at strange times. They weren’t in “contradiction” to what he was saying, but they were odd, and what I’d consider inappropriate in their timing. These raise more red flags, but by themselves they are not enough to say anything. I personally don’t think a normal person, who is innocent in his situation, would smirk, or smile when he did. However, this is not enough to form an opinion. It is just a clue to a bigger picture.

With all real life situations, when you add up the pieces of the puzzle, you get a picture. You will get a picture of the truth, or you will see a lie. I don’t think I’ve ever called out that I didn’t believe anyone without a mountain of clues. One thing may be odd, or out of character, but when multiple things rear their head, and create a pile of questions, you can’t deny the painting that stands before you.

Below I will review segments of the interview with you:
CC = Chris Cuomo
J= Joran

  1. CC: Did you remember who initiated the kissing?

    J: Ah…yeah. I did.

    CC: Did you ever say that she was the one who started kissing you?

    J: I don’t know. Maybe. I said a lot of things.

    Now Joran can’t remember the lies he told? He knows the truth. He just doesn’t want to tell you. Often times, thought not always, when people say “maybe” they mean “yes”.

  2. J: We were planning on going to my house…because she said she wanted to go to my house.

    CC: What were your intentions in taking her to your house?

    J: Um…my intentions to take her to the house were…yeah..um…to have sex with her.”

    Did she want to go to Joran’s house — or did he want sex? Which is it?? I suspect it was the latter.

  3. Chris Cuomo goes on to say that Joran has second thoughts. He decides not to take Natalee to his house because he says his father and brothers are sleeping. Then he says Natalee has an idea to go to the light house on the northeast coast to see sharks.

    I find this very odd:

    a) Most people don’t look for sharks in the dark. This isn’t logical. I don’t think Natalee said this.

    b) Joran first wants to go to his house sometime after midnight, and then he decides not to because he realized his family is sleeping. I don’t believe this. It isn’t logical. It wasn’t like he was going to bring Natalee home at 10:00 p.m., and then next thing it was 2:00 a.m. It was midnight, or later the first time he thinks about bringing her home. He knew his family was sleeping then! I’m not buying this.

  4. Also, later in the evening, Joran says he made up all the lies the first time around because he had a girlfriend, and didn’t want his family, and friends to think bad of him. However, here he was willing to bring Natalee home to his house. He obviously wasn’t worried about what his dad, or family thought then, was he? This points to deception. Another piece of the picture.
  5. CC: It’s 1 a.m., and you say Natalee wanted to see sharks. Are there a lot of sharks around Aruba?

    J: No. Not at all. But she wanted to see the sharks. Yeah…and I don’t know. I told her there are no sharks on Aruba.

    When Joran says “Yeah, …and I don’t know” he smiles very oddly, as if, he does in fact know something. It’s perplexing. It’s another odd odd piece of this picture.

    Which picture is it painting for you? An honest one, or a deceptive one?

  6. Chris Cuomo says Joran says he left (Natalee on the beach) without his shoes.

    CC: Should the fact that you left your shoes be seen as a sign of panic? That you were nervous and scared about what had happened there?

    J: No. Because that is not what happened.

    Joran has glint of a smile, again, when he replies to Chris Cuomo. Why is he smiling? Another question mark. Another piece of the picture.

  7. J: I’d left them on the beach, I’d walked to the car, we got in the car, and right then, there, I couldn’t go back because… we were going home.

    The timing of his pause in the sentence above is odd “because…(Was he thinking of a reason?)…we were going home.”

    Furthermore, is his answer logical? Absolutely not. Add to that his shoes were never found.

    We are painting a picture here. Actually, Joran is. What do you see?

  8. CC: When you heard that a girl had gone missing on the beach what did you think?

    J: Um…..well, the first thing that popped into my head was…(bleep)…what if something happened to her? What if she went swimming…I was thinking after everything she told me, she probably might have gone back to her hotel, hooked up with…gone to someone else…hooked up with someone else and wanted to stay another day on the island.

    First of all, Joran’s answer is not free flowing. It is broken up, hesitant, chopped, and not logically said at times. Second, the fact that he insinuates that she “probably, might have hooked up with someone else” is disturbing. He is trying to push everything away from himself.

  9. Chris Cuomo say something to the effect of why didn’t you go to the police, and tell them everything you know. That would be a normal reaction.

    J: That’s what should have been the reaction…but…ah…I guess…ah.. we decided that I didn’t want anyone to know that happened.

    This is interesting because there are three boys here, but clearly this is about him. He says “we decided that I didn’t want…” He decided. That’s the truth. Furthermore, he stutters for words, a lot. When people tell the truth, they don’t stutter like this. Just another piece of the picture.

  10. CC: What is your first impression of Natalee’s mother?

    J: … She screamed at me, tell me where my daughter is.

    CC: And did you?

    J: I told her I don’t know.

    Chris Cuomo goes on to say to the audience ” But he told them more that that. ” Joran told everyone that he, and his friends dropped off Natalee at the Holiday Inn.

    CC: People don’t lie when they have nothing to hide. Why did you lie if you had nothing to hide about Natalee ?

    J: I lied because…yeah…I was scared. I had a girlfriend at the time. I didn’t want my dad to think bad about me, I didn’t want my friends to think bad about me.”

    Earlier, Joran was willing to bring another girl who was not his girlfriend home to have sex with him, and he wasn’t worried about what his parents might think THEN. But NOW he cares?? This doesn’t add up.

    Second, he had a girlfriend, yet he is out with Natalee, and wants to have sex with her. This show that Joran doesn’t not have good moral values. He is deceptive, and willing to use people for his own benefit regardless of HOW others feel. He admits to that much.

  11. CC: Why not just tell them the truth?

    J: I didn’t want anyone to know. I didn’t want anyone to know I left her on the beach.

    If you honestly didn’t do anything, why would you lie? It just doesn’t add up. Most normal people would get out there, and start looking, would confess everything they know in hopes of finding Natalee. They would think about Natalee instead of themselves.

  12. CC: You tell the police that Natalee fell out of the car when she got out to go (at the Holiday Inn). Why did you tell them that? (Referring to Joran’s lies).

    J: For no specific reason.

    At this point, Joran gives a smirk that is puzzling. I believe there is a reason. I believe at one point Natalee did fall out of the car.

    CC: Was there a little bit of the truth in it? Was Natalee more drunk than you are letting on?

    J: No, not at all.

    When Joran says “No. Not at all.” There is another odd grin.

  13. Chris Cuomo says Joran now says he might have told the police the real story, the one he’s telling you tonight, then and there, if the family hadn’t been so aggressive when they met that first night.

    J: The way they were putting pressure on us probably…uh..made us lie more…because it seemed like we were in big trouble.”

    CC: Even though they were being hostile , they were searching for a girl that hasn’t been found.

    J: They were searching for a girl who wasn’t found…but…a…and I lied to them about it but….a….ah…how they acted towards my family and …ah…my friends is not a normal way parents would go about….if their daughter was missing.

    It’s not normal?? Here Joran is playing the victim. He wants people to feel sorry for him. He doesn’t not have the ability to have any compassion for Natalee, or her family. This, again, is odd. Most people who were innocent would have GREAT compassion for the family, and would defend their innocence.

    Also, Joran stutters a lot, and talks odd. This raises my eyebrows repeatedly.

  14. CC: Nobody had a sense of right and wrong at the time among you three.

    J: No.

    Chris Cuomo goes on to say that over eleven days, the three boys all met at Joran’s house to discuss the situation.

    J: Deepak and Satish came to my house about every day, and we talked, and we talked. We…a…tried to… and we discussed things. And we were like a…we also at that time said, well maybe,, its time to go to the police, and tell them exactly what happened.

    Why is Joran’s speech so chopped up? He isn’t nervous. Is he thinking of what to say, and has to “change his story” to hide the truth? Why is he talking nonsense?

  15. Chris Cuomo says that neither of the two brothers admit to driving Joran home that night.
    CC: Why would they lie?

    J: I don’t know. Well….the thing that…the only explanation I can…a..get for that is at the point if they said they would have picked me up…all…the…everything goes towards them…because…then that meant that they dropped me off at my house and ah…I went to sleep…and they had a car and they could have done anything they wanted.

    Joran — This answer makes absolutely no sense. None. The brothers had the car all night long regardless. That doesn’t mean they committed murder now, does it? Or, were involved, but that is what Joran is suggesting. This sentence really raises my eyebrows. He is having hard time saying clear, sensible answers time, and time again. This is nonsense. People who are honest don’t talk nonsense.

  16. CC: Do you think there is a chance one of your friend went to that beach where she was to hurt Natalee?

    J: I cannot answer that question. The thing that keeps me …that does make me think they know something more about it is they won’t tell the truth about Satish picking me up.

    Now…listen to the next sentence.

    CC: The one thing you three agree upon is that you were the last person to be with Natalee.

    J: Um..Yes.

    Does that make any sense at all? It doesn’t.

    Time and time again.

  17. CC: Do you think you did anything wrong that night?

    J: Yes.

    CC: What was your responsibility as you see it?

    Joran says he shouldn’t have left her at the beach.

    J: I should have brought her back to her hotel, or I should have …um…made sure I left her with someone, one of her friends, but I should have gotten her back to where she should have been.

    Here Joran is honest. Look at how his speech flowed naturally, normally and without chop, hesitation and nonsense. Very interesting.

  18. CC: Have you ever given a girl a drug?

    J: (smirking) No. Never.

    I don’t believe this. Why is he smirking???

  19. This was the most shocking part of the interview!!!

    CC: What would you say to Natalee if you were still able to speak to her?

    J: If I were to see her, if she’d be found tomorrow, I’d hate her. Yes, I’d hate her if she really ran away from home, I’d hate her.

    First, he doesn’t have anything he’d say to Natalee. His brain didn’t even think in those terms. Why?? Instead, he thought about how he’d feel. He’d feel HATE.

    This shows a callousness about Joran that is scary. This whole situation is about him, and he has no sympathy for Natalee, or her family. People who are honest would most likely respond something like this: “I’d be thrilled. ” “I’d hug her.” “I’d hug the ground I walk on. It would prove my innocence.” “Thank god.” “I’d ask her what happened?”. “I’d say how could you do this to me? You had to see on the news, I was being framed for something I didn’t do!!!” “I’d be relieved.” “The truth would be revealed.”

    Honest people would say anything but HATE HER. Joran, however, DOES hate her. I have no doubt about it. He hates her because SHE has RUINED HIS LIFE. Perhaps due to his actions?

19 pieces to this puzzle. What picture does it paint for you?

Joran is still a big suspect in my eyes. I believe he knows way more than he is telling us. I think he knows where Natalee ultimately ended up.

Joran van der Sloot: on Primetime Live Tonight!

I just got this tip from a viewer — thank you, B!

Tonight ABC new’s Primetime Live will air an interview with Joran van der Sloot at 10:00 p.m. ET. Joran van der Sloot is the Dutch teen who was held as a suspect in the Natalee Holloway case in Aruba. If you follow the link now, they show you the text of the interview. I already see one red flag in the text that raises questions and an eyebrow that things may not be what they seem… of course it doesn’t mean Joran van der Sloot in lying. It just means I have questions.

Tune in with me, and if you want, record the show. If I see anything unusual, I will share it with you and then you can go back and check it out for yourself.

And don’t forget to check back tomorrow to see what I believe!

Confess to a murder you didn’t commit?

Brief Case Summary Here at Wikipedia

CBS News show 48 Hours profiled a case on Saturday night about a Halloween night murder in Columbia, Missouri, a few years back. A newspaper editor, Kent Heitholt, was found bludgeoned to death beside his car in the parking lot at 2:00 in the morning — and police couldn’t solve the case.

For two years.

Then, a local young man started talking to his friends and telling them he was dreaming about the murders. The young man finally went to the police and told them.

You have to watch the video of the young man, Chuck Erickson, talking to police. Go to this page, and then on the right-hand side of the screen, you will see Chuck on a video screen . Watch the video footage. Chuck is being lead by police.

For some strange reason, this young man either convinced himself he was the murderer from his dreams, or was lead by police and then convinced by their actions he was the murderer. Perhaps this young man is mentally ill and twisted and wanted to see how far he could take things by trying to get his friend convicted and sentence to prison. I have no idea what the motivating factor is to admit to a crime he didn’t commit, but I can tell you I don’t believe Chuck killed anyone.

I have little doubt that Chuck Erickson has a troubled past. More than that, I think Chuck Erickson is likely to be pathological. He is a classic “neutral person” who doesn’t express one OUNCE of emotion. He is like a drone. Void and empty. With that, I can tell you what wouldn’t motivate a young man like Chuck to go to the police and confess: a guilty conscience. Chuck didn’t and still doesn’t have any emotions — let alone a guilty conscious. When Chuck talks and points out Ryan Ferguson in court, he is saying what he thinks he should say without any conviction in his face or voice.

I do not believe that Chuck Erickson murdered anyone. Nor do I believe his friend, Ryan Ferguson is guilty, either. (FYI: Ryan was sentence to 40 years in prison. An innocent man is sitting in jail).

When I see Ryan Ferguson talk, I truly believe what he has to say. In the first thirty second clip of Ryan on the show, when he said he was glad his parents believed him, Ryan flashed a an expression which showed genuine relief — which was congruent to what he was saying. It was at this point, I knew Ryan was innocent. And the more Ryan talked, the more he convinced me. His emotions matched his words and his actions. It was all congruent.

Here are other reasons why I don’t believe either committed the murders:

  1. The crime scene was bloody. Blood spatter was everywhere — yet no one saw these unprofessional high-school-aged killers with bloody clothes, or found bloody clothes disposed of.
  2. Nor did the police ever find the murder weapon.
  3. Don’t tell me youth like these can commit the perfect murder without a conscious plan to commit murder. I don’t buy it. I personally suspect this was a politically motivated murder executed by a hitman. It was too perfect.
  4. How come the police were never able to link the two boys to the crime with DNA? The police had DNA — a hair in the victim’s hand.
  5. While there was a janitor in the building who thought he saw two boys in the parking lot, he wasn’t able to give any description of them for years! He only remembered when the police told him what he was supposed to remember. Furthermore, this janitor has a shaky past (as he was in prison).
  6. Chuck Erickson comes across as a man who feels no emotion, has no emotion or feelings for any other person. He is emotionally void. When he spoke in court, I did not get one hint of support that he was telling the truth. Everything he said however points to a lie.
  7. The evidence against Chuck that he is a liar is mounting. Chuck’s story about the murder involves the two boys who were at the time of murder in high school going back to a bar after the crime. If this is accurate, the boys would have returned to the bar after 2:00 a.m. The bar closed at 1:30 a.m. Chuck’s story is a lie.
  8. Ryan Ferguson emotions, and facial expressions were all consistent with what he was saying. I have no doubt this boy is honest in the face of all of these facts.

Michael Brown: The Fall-out Guy?

I had an interesting experience this week. A reader e-mailed me and asked me for an opinion about Fema Director Michael Brown who was in charge during Katrina. He provided me with the following links and wanted to know if I thought Brown was honest or not.

Clip 1
Clip 2

Like all people, I will confess to my share of judgements and when it came to Brown, my judgement wasn’t good. Because this adminstration has frustrated me so much, I just turn away these days. I don’t watch, listen or read anymore because it is the same old story and I am worn thin. I found the name of the site where the links were posted, interesting too.

However, I was shocked after watching the first clip of Brown. I was amazed. When I watched Brown, I trusted what he was saying to be true. His anger was genuine, his emotions were true. I watched the second clip and my opinion didn’t change.

All of the sudden, I was like wow. I wonder if Michael Brown is the fall out guy for this administration’s handling of Katrina. I can’t help but wonder…

Don’t get me wrong, I think Michael Brown knows more than he is saying…but nonetheless it appears he is being truthful. It appears that he did what he is saying he did — and those above him who were to carry orders out — had other orders from other people to “not do them”.

Very interesting. Very interesting.

Life & Mind of a Hitman

Sunday night on A&E, I watched the Iceman Tapes: The Conversations with a Killer.

It was chilling.

Haunting.

Creepy enough to give you nightmares, to make you double-check your locks, to pull all your blinds, and to make you want to fear every man you’ve ever known!!

On the show, notorious mob hit man, Richard Kuklinski shares snippets of his mind with the audience. He answers frank questions calculatedly yet amazingly honest at times. Regardless, Kuklinski is a difficult person to read. Why? Because he is clearly a psychopath. He admits he had no guilt for all the horrific crimes he committed. He said he never thought about them nor was he ever haunted by them.

Richard Kuklinski was known to aerosolize cyanide, using a spray to kill his victims in less than a minute. He also told a story where he walked into a bar, acted drunk, spilled his drink on a guy — a drink laced with cyanide — walked away — and later heard he claimed another victim.

Kuklinski earned the title Ice Man because he froze one of his victims for two years and when he disposed of the victim, he didn’t take into account his victim needed to thaw before discovery to successfully pull off the crime. The medical examiner realized upon review that they body was still frozen — and that there was more to this murder than what met the eye.

It doesn’t take much to say that this man was deeply, deeply disturbed. He disturbed ME!

I had a realization during this show last night. I realized that psychopathic liars do feel emotions – – even though most of the time, they are neutral. I realized they only feel their own pain — and not the pain of others. When I see this, it hints at a bigger picture. It hints for me to look closer.

Psychopaths, who are capable of serious crimes, do not feel emotions for other people. While I knew that, I never connected consciously that the only emotions they feel are their own.

Murderers like Kuklinski, BTK, Scott Peterson, etc. see other people as objects and not human beings. They will treat you right — usually better than average (if you are a stranger or a friend, not the target of their obsession. They will pull out all the stops to make you believe in them, but behind their facade, you will not see any deep or true emotion.

Some psychopaths can fake emotions quite well–good enough to really make me second-guess myself. If that is the case, the only other way to uncover a psychopath like these guys is to look for inconsistencies in fact to back up your suspicions. That will be the biggest clue that something is amiss. When 1 + 1 = 4 time-and-time again — something is up. That can make for a tough investigation, though.

There are people who are safe around these crazy psychopaths. If the psychopath has deemed you IMPORTANT and SPECIAL, in the power of their world, and they don’t believe you are any threat to them emotionally or physically in any way — you will be safe. You will be lied to repeatedly, but you will be safe and unharmed. Case-in-point: The wives and children of both Kuklinksi and BTK. Both men, in a sick way, loved their family and never once imagined hurting any one of them.

The big question is just how do you know you are deemed important to a psychopath?? Of course, you can’t so you can never ever trust them! Laci Peterson and her son were a threat to Scott Peterson. Scott Peterson lost control with Laci I believe due to the expectant baby and felt his lifestyle was threatened and in the end treated her like an object and killed her.

The world of psychopaths is complex, bizarre and out right strange — if not utterly creepy.