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Sergio and Becky Celises 911 call

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Video Link (You can hear the unedited calls here)

In the phone call to 911 by Sergio Celis, I think everyone can hear that his demeanor is not in line with the events he wants us to believe happened. We hear no fear, stress, anger, panic or emotion in Sergio’s voice whatsoever.

I am also immediately tripped by his words.

Sergio says, “I want to report a missing person.”  There is no urgency is Sergio’s voice whatsoever!  He also says, “I BELIEVE she was abducted from our house.” He BELIEVES? Who would say that in a critical time like this?  If you know something happened, such as foul play, you state it clearly, but what Sergio does here is hedge.  He can’t quite commit to his story: either consciously or subconsciously.

When you listen to Sergio’s son talk to the police he says it like he believes it. He says, “Hey, I need someone to come. My sister’s gone. Someone broke in and grabbed her.”  Do you notice there is no hesitation?

The 911 operator asked Sergio why he thinks his daughter was abducted, and I find this answer perplexing as well.  He says “I have no idea.”  Most parents at this point would be saying “because I found the screen pushed out!!!  Someone broke into my house and stole my daughter.”  But Sergio never thinks of this and thinks in broader terms instead, but most parents at this stage wouldn’t even think beyond the break in at this point.

When Sergio talks, he almost sounds upbeat to me.  His sentences end in positive notes.

When Sergio says about Becky, “I called her and told her to get her butt home,” he laughs sinisterly.  It’s chilling as many of you have pointed out.  This is not a nervous laugh at all. It’s a laugh in the lines of “I got her.”  It further supports my theory that Sergio is a controlling and manipulative man, per my facial profiling.

When I listen to Becky in the 911 call, I hear stress, fear, worry and concern. You can hear the adrenaline in her voice. You can feel her urgency to get to her daughter, yet something happened between this and the first TV interview she did with Sergio.  That urgency was gone.  Why?  What happened between her and Sergio?

When Becky is crying out in a high pitch, and she says the words, “I’m sorry” you can hear her voice quiver.  I hear several quivers which indicate true emotions.

At this point, we know Sergio has been separated from his boys and Becky, and this could be a strategy to get Becky away from Sergio so she can relax and open up.   Let’s hope it works!  I’d be curious to review her interviews to find out if she knows something because her behavior after this 911 call changed dramatically.  Clearly, as I have said before, Sergio holds the key to this case, and poor Isabel’s fate, and it isn’t looking positive.

Becky Celis Talks on Mother’s Day

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(I lost the link to the video–this is another version)

Becky Celis was seen by reporters outside of her home yesterday on Mother’s Day without Sergio. It is reported that one parent lost custody of the two remaining Celis boys, and I suspect that parent is Sergio.

What is fascinating about this interview is that we see Becky actually showing true stress in her face for the first time at length when she talks. We see a different Becky compared to when she is with Sergio.

As I mentioned when I did facial profiling last week, Sergio’s facial features reveal he has potential anger and control issues. If I were assisting on this case, I absolutely would have investigated this further. And now seeing Becky without Sergio, her demeanor has taken a complete change in direction compared to the other interviews we’ve seen. While she shows more stress in her forehead, she seems oddly more relaxed.

I have to wonder if Becky is afraid of Sergio now. As the police are honing in, I think Sergio holds the key to this case.

Becky and Sergio Celis 3rd Interview

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Becky and Sergio gave a third interview to the media at an undisclosed location in the past few days, and this interview, like all of the others, is littered with inconsistencies.

The most notable element of both parents is their lack of urgency to find their daughter. They are as relaxed as a Sunday brunch with friends when I would expect them to be on edge and very stressed considering their daughter has been abducted.

Furthermore, they are emotionally as flat as ice cubes when it comes to expressing fear, sadness and concern, yet they tell us their heart is breaking.   If their heart is breaking, they would be giving us indicators (oblique eyebrows, frowns, tears, etc), but we see absolutely nothing. It’s hard to ignore.  Faces do not lie.

Becky says without any emotions whatsoever, “…we break down every night.  Sorry that we are not breaking down in front of you guys every five seconds.  I am very private.  I am not one to show my feelings in front of people.  You can ask anybody.  I need my friends and family.  I am very closed person. And I cry by myself.  I break down by myself.  I don’t even break down in front of my kids and my husband.  That is my thing, my private — I’m sorry, that is just the way I am.”

Yet when she says this, I see a glimmer of positive emotions as shown below. How can she feel positive emotions in a time like this?

Becky and Sergio were asked if they had any suspects in their minds and listen to Becky’s answer:  “From the get-go, we…I don’t think we ever…eh….I mean, its all been so…(shoulder shrug)…we just don’t understand. We don’t understand who would take her.  There is no reason to take her.”

Becky shows what are called false starts. She starts a sentence in one direction and then change directions multiple times. This means that Becky is thinking on her feet as she talks and changes her thoughts constantly. Becky and Sergio both do this repeatedly through this interview.  Then Becky finally says, “There is no reason to take her.”

I find Becky’s answer odd. There is no reason to take her?  Of course there isn’t, but it doesn’t take long for any adult to figure out why a child could be abducted and none of them are positive, yet they don’t seem to even consider this, which is highly abnormal.

Sergio talks further about who could have taken Isa.  He says, “We literally wanted anyone whose been in our home to go through all the questioning, because yes, how are we going to trust anyone whose been in our home because we really don’t know.”

Its interesting that Sergio is saying they suspect everyone, yet if someone took their daughter out her window, wouldn’t that support a stranger abduction?  Which one do they believe it is? They don’t ever seem to clarify this.

Becky continues that they want everybody… anyone who has been in their house to be held under the same scrutiny as they were.   When Becky says this, she shows disgust.  Why is Becky disgusted?  Sergio continues, “To be held under the same scrutiny as us.”

If you notice, they don’t want people questioned to get to the truth.  Instead, they make it clear they want people scrutinized just like they were.  That seems to be most important to them.  It’s very odd.

Parents of abducted children could careless about being scrutinized about the missing child so long as police hone into the right direction, and Sergio acts like its no big deal to them, yet Becky shows clear disgust when talking about this.

What these two say versus what they express emotionally are two different animals!

Sergio goes on to says, “And now its giving thanks to the community”.  Giving thanks?  This really flags me.  No one has found Isa!!!  How can you thank people before you get results?  Most parents of missing children don’t think about thanking anyone until they find evidence and get an outcome. It’s the furthest thing on their mind until they get answers!  They continue to beg for help and they don’t want people to think they’re done and finished with a thank you!

It’s like these two don’t seem to need answers, do they?

Becky is asked and talks about the funding that is being raised for Isabel. She says, “We’ve asked that it goes straight to them, to find Isabel. I mean we’re okay, financially, we will make it.  We’ve made it through worse, and uh, financially, and uh, there’s no…we’ll make this though.  What we want is all the effort towards Isabel, finding Isabel” and this point she shakes her head no, and gives a blended contempt disgust expression!!!

I was blown away!!! See a screen capture below.

Furthermore, if you notice Becky says they’ve been through worse? REALLY?  Then she corrects herself by saying financially.  Becky is self-censoring herself. Why does she feel the need to do this?

Why does Becky have such contempt and disgust about money being used to find Isa?  This disturbs me.  Its like she doesn’t want people searching and looking for Isa nor for the money to be spent, or she is disgusted and contemptuous at the reporter, but why?

Sergio then talks about the ransom and gives us many false starts when he says, “I wanted to be clear that nothing had been mentioned…there was no, you know…….I wanted….if there were demands, please let us know something…let us know something.  Why is this happening? What is the reason behind it? And the fact that nothing has been mentioned about that–that’s why we’re even reaching for that. It’s like they’re not even mentioning anything….as far as a reward, or anything like that.  And even the reward money when we were first saw it and 88 crime put up their reward, and to this day everything as far as we know is an anonymous donation.”

Does that even make sense to anyone?  Sergio is talking nonsense in all directions, isn’t he?  What’s up with these two?  Ransom and reward money are two different things!!! And he suggests he is reaching for a ransom.  What?

I can’t believe they laughed at what ransom money they would have when asked.  “I guess we could get rid of our cars and our house,” says Sergio.  He guesses? Would you ever say that?  Most parents would say if this comes down to a ransom, we will come up with whatever money is necessary! Or they wouldn’t even entertain this concept, but these two make you feel like they wouldn’t give up a dime for ransom, don’t they?

It seems they want a ransom, but none has been mentioned.  Why would they even entertain this?  It seems absurd to me.

I do not believe Becky or Sergio at all. I think they feel very differently than they are telling us.

 

Becky and Sergio Celis on The Today Show

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When I first look at Becky and Sergio, I immediately notice their demeanor. It stands out to me.  They are both extremely somber and hopeless looking.  There is no urgency in them whatsoever to find their daughter.  Why?  Why have they given up?  It seems they have been this way from day one.  How do you give up if you believe your daughter is abducted and could still be out there?

When Becky first talks, I feel like she is making a conscious effort to talk about her daughter in present tense, and as soon as Sergio slips and uses past tense, he corrects himself. It’s notable.  The last time Becky talked about her daughter, she used past tense, and while that can be a clue to deception, it isn’t always, but the change in her behavior now is what stands out.  You can just feel her thinking as she speaks.  

Sergio doesn’t seem to have a solid last memory of his last time with Isa.  He doesn’t talk about tucking her into bed, hugging her good night, getting her ready for bed.  I don’t hear him have recollection memories like “I didn’t tuck her in to bed that night and I so regret it.”   Instead his memory is one of her walking past him not wanting to eat. He says, “I was asking her…” instead of “I asked her…”.    He doesn’t talk in terms of what he remembers.  His memories are… “She just was …she was…she is…”
Becky does a lot of shoulder shrugging as she is talking, which is showing a lack of confidence in what she is saying. Why doesn’t the woman have confidence in what she should know to be true? That they are innocent, that someone took their daughter, that she is out there and can be found, if people work together and no one gives up!?
For Sergio to say that Isabel doesn’t deserve this is odd.  “Deserve” is a weird word for a child that he believes was abducted. I don’t think any parent would think in these terms if their child was a victim of a crime.  However, if something happened to Isa under their watch which caused her harm, they might use these terms.
Sergio is asked if he believes his daughter is being held somewhere by the Today Show. If you notice, Sergio doesn’t answer the question, but he does say they have a reward ready.  Are you kidding me?  There there has been nothing said about a ransom!  Where does this come from?  Most parents don’t automatically think of a ransom when a child is abducted. This is very strange!!
Sergio says when talking about being looked at in this case, “We do feel sometimes that they’re wasting time with us even though we know we have to be under, you know, scrutiny, absolutely, understandable:   but my goodness, she’s still out there.“
When he says this, he actually breaks out into a smile.  How could he ever find that funny?  Most people would be upset if the police were wrongly looking at them.  They also wouldn’t feel that “sometimes” they are wasting time.  They would feel like every time they look at the them, they are wasting time.
Clearly, their answers are not consistent with what they want us to believe.
I also find it odd that Becky only wants “prayers” to bring her daughter home instead of volunteers to search, people to look for their daughter at gas stations, supermarkets, convenience stories. Most moms would say anyone who you think looks like Isa, please call police. No lead is unimportant, but no she just wants prayers.  That is stressed way more than their desire for people to search. Very strange.
Becky specifically says she wants prayers to “bring her…to help us bring her home.”  You almost feel they are asking for prayers for someone to find their little girl’s body, to help them get her home without implicating them so this whole ordeal can be over with.
I have no doubt the parents know a different story than what they are telling us about Isa right now. Very sad.
 

Isabel Celis Parents Plea for her Return

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In another unfortunate twist this week, we see more parents pleading for their child’s safe return, but the problem, again, is we are seeing feigned emotions.

I am troubled by many things in this plea:

  1. Their focus is on themselves–“We just wanted to let you guys know…” “We are cooperating to the fullest extent..”  These are their first thoughts!!
  2. Becky slips and says, “We do not want you to focus…or…we don’t want the focus to be taken off of Isabel.” Is that a subconscious slip of the tongue?
  3. The higher pitch of Sergio’s voice…
  4. The lack of tears when they appear to be crying.
  5. The lack of oblique eyebrows at key times when they attempt to express true sadness.
  6. The lack of urgency to find their daughter. They start the interview by thanking people instead of pleading for people to keep a lookout for their daughter, give her description, etc. Which would be more important to you if your daughter was missing?
  7.  Their complete despair and lack of hope.  

While both of these people are undeniably feeling stress, they are trying to express sadness and fear, but show no sincere expressions to support it.

I also notice how they are fine before they talk, but get “emotional” when they are speaking, but as soon as the camera is off of them again, they go back to being normal.  This is called emotional turbulence and is not a good sign.

Becky also uses self-soothing gestures when she rubs her neck.  While these are not an indicator of deception, why does she have the need to self-sooth when she speaks to the media?

I am also troubled by how these two are extremely clingy.  They act like the need each other desperately.Are they hiding a horrible secret?  Most parents of children who are missing legitimately are not clingy.  They are strong, resolved, hopeful and plead for information to bring their child back.  These two seem troubled internally much more than they are about their missing daughter, if you ask me.

I suspect we will find out these two know more than they are telling us…how sad for Isabel.